Talk:Battle of Mogadishu (1993)

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Bloody Sunday attack[edit]

Hello, I added the information on what in Somalia is known as the Bloody Sunday attack. The information was properly sourced. The bulk of it was then removed rather than edited. I reverted it back. In the interests of avoiding an edit war, I would like to discuss the section here. Thank you. AmplifyWiki (talk) 19:03, 25 March 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you. The Battle of Mogadishu cannot be understood without including the Bloody Sunday attack. However, the information is incomplete, as it says nothing about the motive for the attack. Mark Bowden's account states that the attack was instigated by the United Nations leadership. True? Tfdavisatsnetnet (talk) 21:25, 8 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes and no. It was UNOSOM II leadership, which the U.S. was a major part of (and all troops involved in the raid were American). Also the raid was authorized by the White House, the Pentagon and even the U.N. Sectary General himself if I remember correctly (by the way Bloody Monday not Sunday). Whoopsawa (talk) 17:28, 20 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Does a dailybeast article from 27 years after the original incident that intonates an ongoing war crime cover-up based on claims of a anonymous source constitute reasonable facts with respect to a highly politicized event? I would think there would be sufficient evidence after 27 years from credible sources that do not use stock photography as their main image. Similarly, a war reporter who wrote a book 17 years after the even constitutes fact or evidence? While I do not claim to know any material facts about this raid, I find most of the citations on this article to be questionable and provide an indication of potential bias and not truth. I guess that's on par with wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:32, 27 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm not sure what book that's made "17 years after" you are referring to. A significant source for the raid from, "Me Against My Brother" by American war correspondent Scott Peterson, was published in 2000, 7 years later. He is a first hand account who was directly on the scene of the attack. Not to mention he then interviewed many Somali's immediately after and years later when he returned to Mogadishu in 1998. If you are referring to Mark Bowden, his work was only 5 years after the raid. The raid has it's own page now with other sources. Whoopsawa (talk) 22:40, 19 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2022[edit]

"Hunt for Aidid begins

Aidids political organization, the S.N.A, had begun to broadcast anti-U.N. propaganda on Radio Mogadishu after coming to the belief that the U.N, and its Sectary General Boutrous Ghali"

Change Sectary to Secretary LeofinAnaras (talk) 14:59, 5 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done. Loafiewa (talk) 15:03, 5 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

White supremacist edits[edit]

"They inflicted heavy casualties on the approaching Somali mob."

This is un-cited. It's also absolutely racist.

The Somali combatants had legitimate political interests to fight for, they knew eachother, and they knew their enemy. This is not a "mob"

Unless the racist commentary is meant to imply that the US military men were killing civilians preemptively. Which I don't think is the point, considering the terrible POV conflict.

Seriously, this reads like a debunked Pentagon briefing. Pages like this make me want to learn a different language, so I'm not stuck with all this anglo-propaganda.

Americans shouldn't even be in Africa. But this is a play-by-play for the Rambo aficionados. Absolutely disgusting culture. 2601:5C4:200:5C40:DCCB:2867:3108:2B71 (talk) 22:40, 26 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Armed civilians?[edit]

It's like you're not trying to even be taken seriously anymore. (talk) 14:32, 10 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]